RAKE AND TRAIL FOR TRIKES

 

JUST WHAT IS RAKE AND TRAIL?

Your front suspension geometry is defined by the following six variables which are defined as:

OFFSET: Centerline of the top steering neck to the centerline of the top of the fork tubes.

RAKE: The angle in degrees of the steering neck from the vertical cord.

FORK LENGTH: The distance between the top of the fork tubes to the centerline of the axle.

DIAMETER: The diameter of the front tire.

TRAIL: The distance defined by the vertical line from axle to ground and the intersection of centerline of the steering neck and ground.

 



HOW TO MEASURE CORRECT TRAIL

Raise the bike to an upright position, using a tape measure, hold the tape straight down from the front axle to the floor. Put a mark on the floor at that point. Then place the tape parallel to the steering neck, following the angle of the steering neck all the way up to the floor. Put a mark here also. Now measure the distance between the two marks and you have your trail measurement. It should read between 2 and 4 inches. Note: If your bike is equipped with a rear suspension, have someone sit on the seat when you make the measurements to simulate your actual riding condition.

TOO LITTLE OR NEGATIVE TRAIL

With too little or negative trail (steering axle mark behind the front axle mark), the bike will handle with unbelievable ease at low speeds, but will be completely out of balance at high speed. It will easily develop a fatal high-speed wobble. EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!

NORMAL TRAIL

Normal trail is somewhere between 2 and 4 inches. The bike will handle easily at both high and low speeds. Flowing smoothly through curves without swaying or wobbling. If you use a very fat rear tire, you should keep the trail as close to 4 inches as possible.

TOO MUCH TRAIL

If the trail is more than 4 inches the bike will handle sluggishly at high speeds. It will seem almost too steady. You will have trouble balancing the bike at lower speeds or on winding roads. It will feel generally sluggish and clumsy.

If the trail is more than 4 inches the bike will handle sluggishly at high speeds. It will seem almost too steady. You will have trouble balancing the bike at lower speeds or on winding roads. It will feel generally sluggish and clumsy.

 
 

Just how does rake and trail affect a trike? Well, rake doesn't seem to have much of an effect with a trike, but that's not the case with trail. The more trail you have the front end will tend to steer harder at speeds over 30mph.

 

I asked a couple of known trike builders the question concerning rake.  All the  the answers all seemed to agree.......

 

I think you pretty well covered it. A VW trike with a long rake, in my opinion, looks better,

rides better and makes more sense because your front wheel in leaning into the turn.

This takes a lot of stress off the front end and front wheel.

On the other hand, a V8 trike or any other trike with a lot of weight on

the front end can't handle a long raked front end because of the

downward stress of the extra weight. They have to have a heavy front

end that is fairly vertical or you bend components in a hurry.

Another thing that determines rake-ability is the type of front end. If

you are riding on tubes there comes a point fairly early in the game

where the tubes will not operate correctly. I like springers for this reason

and LOVE girders. A 12 over girder leading down the road is hard to beat

and they ride like Granny's rocking chair.

For VW or other rear engine trikes the rake is a matter of choice and

esthetics. Too much is made of it. I've built two with stock Gold Wing

rake and they rode great. I built two with springers and they rode great and I looked BA_A_A_AD!!!!

Build it for you and get the look YOU want. Chances are good that it will

ride great. If it doesn't, fix it. It's called adventure!

 

Another answer:

From past experience in riding different models of trikes from bugs

to V8's..I've found that the straighter the forks (less rake) the

more front end wobble on low speeds and bumps, definitely a

steering damper needed there, although it is more prominent on

heavy front end machines like the V8's or front engine trikes.  Long

rake also helps alleviate the washout sensation when taking off from

a start and turning. It also helps if the trike has at least a front

end weight of 10% of the total weight of the machine and rider

amount of rake. The longer the rake the more apt to go with

springers or girders as the motorcycle type forks were not meant to

flex parallel to the ground but to ride up and down in the sliders. As

for stability (and looks) I like the springers if ya can get a heavy

enough spring for them to not be susceptible to bottoming out on

speed bumps or potholes...jus my 2 cents worth...

HOW TO MEASURE  TRAIL

 

TO CHECK YOUR TRAIL RUN A STRING DOWN THE CENTER OF THE STEERING HEAD TO THE GROUND AND THEN DROP A PLUMB BOB FROM THE AXEL BETWEEN 1 INCH TO 2 INCHES IS GREAT.

 

Another input....

 

My  rake is 42 degrees, trail is 1 1/2". Corners like a dream at all speeds. taking curves a

little  In fact I find myself faster than I probably should be,

The point I wish to make is this.   I have seen and

read several times on the BTW forum that rake and trail don't matter to much on a Trike. I say,

Bull Shit to that statement. Rake is of no concern, but anytime

you have more that about 4" of trail, your steering will be hard at speeds above 30mph.  

 

And my statement!!!

 

The rake on my own trike is around 55 degrees, my trail is about 1 inch. I have to agree with the above statement.  Just my own humble opinion.

 
 

 

 
 
 

Links

 

Custom Forks

Bobs trike Project

Make your own springer

Rake and Trail Calculator

Triple Trees and Frame Geometry

Trikerdon's Leading Link Front end